martha: it is interesting to note bill clinton was at a university campus in minnesota the other day. he is obviously one of their biggest guns. he is the guy who some guys call the closer for president obama. why is he in minnesota, that is good question, right? >> you're forcing one of your biggest assets obviously bill clinton is, minnesota, a state ronald reagan didn't carry in 198 it tells you something. equally important you taken amajor asset away from the campaign being in florida, ohio today. so to me, there is no losing in trying to strategy. martha: i don't know if we have it, but there's a look at the race, i asked this morning, our brain room, where was carter-reagan in 1980 roughly today, at the end of october. there it is. it's amazing. jimmy carter was at 45%. this is national poll taken just days before the race. and ronald reagan was at 39%. what do you think about that? >> since i lived through it. martha: you sure did. >> i know it well. there were points reagan was ahead prior to that. what happened in those days when you can't make a perfect parallel a whole lot